meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The a16z Show

Dylan Patel: GPT-5, NVIDIA, Intel, Meta, Apple

The a16z Show

a16z

Science, Innovation, Business, Entrepreneurship, Culture, Disruption, Software Eating The World, Technology

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

The AI hardware race is heating up, and NVIDIA is still far ahead. What will it take to close the gap? In this episode, Dylan Patel (Founder & CEO, SemiAnalysis) joins Erin Price-Wright (General Partner, a16z), Guido Appenzeller (Partner, a16z), and host Erik Torenberg to break down the state of AI chips, data centers, and infrastructure strategy. We discuss: - Why simply copying NVIDIA won’t work, and what it takes to beat them - How custom silicon from Google, Amazon, and Meta could reshape the market - The economics of AI model launches and the shift toward cost efficiency - Infrastructure bottlenecks: power, cooling, and the global supply chain - The rise of AI silicon startups and the challenges they face - Export controls, China’s AI ambitions, and geopolitics in the chip race - Big tech’s next moves: advice for leaders like Jensen Huang, Sundar Pichai, Mark Zuckerberg, and Elon Musk

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Invidia is going to have better networking than you.

0:02.0

They're going to have better HBM.

0:03.0

They're going to have better process node.

0:04.0

They're going to come to market faster.

0:05.0

They're going to be able to ramp faster.

0:06.0

They're going to have better negotiations with, whether it's TSM or SK Hynix and the memory in silicon side or all the rack people or like copper cables. Everything, they're going to have better cost efficiency. So you can't just like do the same thing as Nvidia. have to really leap forward in some other way.

0:02.7

You have to be like 5x better.

0:05.6

Today we're talking AI. the same thing as Nvidia. You have to really leap forward in some other way. You have to be like

0:21.5

5x better. Today we're talking AI, hardware, chips, and the infrastructure powering the next wave

0:28.4

of models with three people at the center of it all. Dylan Patel, founder and CEO of Semi-analysis,

0:34.5

one of the sharpest voices on chips, data centers, and economics driving

0:38.0

AI's explosive growth. Aaron Price-Ripe, general partner at A16Z, investing in the technologies

0:43.8

and infrastructure shaping the future. Guido Appenzeller, partner at A16Z with decades on the

0:49.4

front lines of AI, cloud, and networking. From GPT5's launch to Nvidia's dominance, custom silicon and the global race for compute, we're covering what's happening behind the scenes. Let's get into it. Dylan, welcome to the podcast. Thank you for having me. We've been trying to get you for a while. You're a busy man, but it worked out. Guido, why want to you introduce why we were so excited to have Dylan on the podcast and what we're excited to discuss. I think, Dylan, you've done exceptional job in covering what's happening in the AI harbor space, AI semi-space, and now more more data center space as well. And just looking at it, currently the most valuable company on the planet is an AI semi-company, right? The I think biggest IPO so far in AI was an AI cloud company. This is currently where it's happening, right? In any gold rush in the early days is the peaks and troubles that make money. And I think this is the stage that we're in. So, super excited to have you yet today. Awesome. Thank you. Happy to talk about my favorite topics. Amazing.

1:45.0

Well, maybe let's start with GPD5. We just had some of the research for Christina and Isabella on here last week. You said it was disappointing. Why do you share your reactions or what capabilities you were hoping to see or overall? I think it depends on what tier of user you are. Right? GPD5 and before you were $20 or $200 a month

2:02.3

subscriber, you no longer have access to 4.5, which in my opinion is still a better pre-trained

2:08.4

model for certain things. Or you no longer have access to 03, which would think for 30 seconds

2:15.6

on average maybe, right? Whereas GPT5, even when you're using thinking, only thinks for like five to 30 seconds on average, maybe, right? Whereas GPD-5, even when you're using thinking,

2:19.3

only thinks for like five to 10 seconds on average, right?

2:22.3

Which is an interesting sort of phenomenon, right?

2:24.3

But basically, like, GPD-5 is not spending more compute per se.

2:28.8

The model did get a little bit better on a vanilla basis, right?

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from a16z, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of a16z and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.