Hello, this is the Webbox Podcast. I'm Matt Chawley. Thank you for all of you who downloaded

yesterday's with biggest day we've ever had on the podcast. I don't know what it was

about yesterday's podcast. It proves so interesting to everyone. But anyway, it's lovely

for that. If you wanted to tell your friends all about to still go online and post a review

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Wait here. Right, a complete change of tone on the podcast today. For our big thing today,

we've caught up with Claire Fisher. She was on the show last year. She messaged me to say

she used to listen while she was having chemotherapy. She's a former civil servant, started a campaign

called Dying Well to try and improve end of life care. Well, Claire is now in a hospice

but I caught up with her on Zoom this week and I'm really moving but thoughtful interview

with her coming up on the podcast today for a complete change of tack. Before that, though,

it's our columnist panel where we will talk about postions. Of course, it's normally

on a Thursday night at the Marriott, but no James Marriott this week because he's off

cramming for his mocks. So instead this week is with Indian art and Hugo Rifkin.

Go on then. Who wants to start? Boris Johnson can he survive India?

It's a good question. I'm not entirely sure actually of the answer. I'm interested in

the yesterday. I had I had a past or delivered and the DPD delivery man wanted to talk about

it. Then in the co-op, the cashier wanted to talk about it and then out on a dog walk,

another random man wanted to talk about it. And I think, you know, when you when it is clear

that people who aren't kind of political nerds are really, really livid about something

then the something is very serious. So I'm not sure he can. I think, certainly if anything

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