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Dwayne Betts on Beauty, Prison, and Redaction

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🗓️ 23 January 2023

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Dwayne Betts was a 16-year-old in solitary confinement when a fellow inmate slid a book of poetry under his cell door. What happened next is an astounding story of transformation: from desperation to the discovery of beauty, even behind bars. Listen as the lawyer, prison reform advocate, and award-winning poet explains to EconTalk host Russ Roberts why he's on a mission to bring books--and beauty--into prisons. They also discuss Betts's latest book, Redaction, a collaboration with the artist Titus Kaphar.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, Conversations for the Curious, part of the Library of Economics

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and Liberty.

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I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Shalem College in Jerusalem and Stanford University's Hoover

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Institution.

0:14.0

Go to econtalk.org where you can subscribe, comment on this episode and find links down

0:18.6

the information related to today's conversation.

0:21.6

You'll also find our archives with every episode we've done going back to 2006.

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Our email address is mail at econtalk.org.

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We'd love to hear from you.

0:37.8

To the January 5, 2023 and my guest is poet and lawyer, Duane Bats.

0:42.8

He is the creator of the Freedom Reads Project, an initiative to install curated micro libraries

0:48.6

of 500 books in prisons across the country.

0:52.4

A project we spoke about on his first appearance.

0:55.1

This is his third appearance on econtalk.

0:57.1

Duane was last year in May of 2022, discussing Ralph Olsen and Primo Levy.

1:03.1

I want to encourage listeners to go to econtalk.org where you'll find a link to our survey of

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your favorite episodes of last year.

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Duane, welcome back to econtalk.

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I know it's always a pleasure to be here.

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I'm tasting Mike Munder.

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You're close.

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Well, with this third episode, you're on your way.

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