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Dust Up | E6 The Strategy

Verified

Scripps

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.71.8K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

A whistleblower emerges who takes calls from women who worry that they also got sick from baby powder. The Verified team uncovers how Johnson & Johnson sowed doubt about the science, influenced testing, and came up with language that obfuscated the danger of talc to women. Support the show: https://www.verifiedpod.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:19.0

Sign up at lad Brooks live. Co. Witness Docks from Sticker. We were all taken into a big meeting and talked to about the Johnson baby powder cases that we were going to start hearing about.

0:58.0

Because they assumed that people in the general public are going to start calling in and saying,

1:02.8

hey, is your product safe?

1:05.6

You know, I'm hearing that all these women are getting cancer.

1:08.4

Should we be using your product?

1:11.4

Should we be using your product? Is it safe? That is the question at the heart of this series.

1:20.0

And the people responsible for answering it work for Johnson and Johnson and

1:24.3

and the Food and Drug Administration, the FDA. Now we know what J and J has to say about

1:30.9

it. Talk is pure, talc is safe, despite decades of tests finding some asbestos

1:38.0

fibers in their product. So if Jane J's answers are hard to trust, who do we look to? The FDA is supposed to protect us,

1:48.0

but as we'll see today, they've struggled to give us a consistent answer as well and they don't always have

1:55.6

the power to act. I'm Natasha del Toro and this is verified. Today we're going to look at what the FDA can and can't do when regulating cosmetic products.

2:27.0

We'll look at what happens when women try to raise their hands and say,

2:32.0

I think this talcum powder could be making me sick.

2:36.5

We'll walk through what happens when a researcher raises his hand and says,

2:41.2

hey, I found asbestos in these products on store shelves.

2:46.0

And then we'll look at why raising those hands doesn't trigger the response from the FDA that

2:52.0

you'd hope.

2:54.5

Now, I don't want you to get overwhelmed.

2:56.9

There are some wonky details here.

2:59.8

They're what make up the safety net. And one important piece of that net is meant to be

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