Dusk, Night, Dawn: A Conversation with author Anne Lamott
The Marianne Williamson Podcast
Marianne Williamson
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 26 April 2021
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
Anne Lamott is known for her insightful prose and deep spirituality. A best-selling author of more than 15 books, Anne’s advice is sought by readers worldwide. Her latest book “Dusk, Night, Dawn” doesn’t disappoint as it thoughtfully tackles issues of aging (growth), life, politics and faith.
The famously progressive Annie and I go way back, and it was fun to have her join me to talk about her books, her family and how she survived the Trump years. She is as delightful and insightful and always.
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| 0:00.0 | Grace again, you and I both believe and say that Grace bats last, but grace meets you exactly where |
| 0:05.9 | you are, meets your country, meets you, meets your child, exactly where they are, and it doesn't |
| 0:10.4 | leave any of us where it found us, right? Kind of nudges us into the wheelbarrow and takes us to |
| 0:16.7 | maybe a little bit sunnier place. |
| 0:35.6 | Hey, everybody. It's Miriam Williamson, and thank you so much for joining me today. |
| 0:38.9 | I was listening to somebody talk the other day about intergenerational dialogue, which is a phrase I've heard more and more of. And I thought that |
| 0:45.6 | that's a really good thing because I think of age as an interesting phenomenon, sort of like |
| 0:50.9 | a big house. And every decade is like another room in the house. |
| 0:55.0 | And when you are in the room, you're not any longer in the room you used to be in, |
| 1:00.0 | and you're not yet in the room that you will one day be in. |
| 1:03.0 | And all the rooms are fantastic in their own way, and they are all equally important, |
| 1:09.0 | but they're very different. And it seems to me that the older you are, |
| 1:14.7 | the more you know certain things. And the younger you are, the more you know certain other things. |
| 1:22.8 | So when I hear phrases like intergenerational dialogue, it makes me feel happy because I feel like we're |
| 1:28.2 | starting at a new level. And that new level, of course, goes back to ancient times when there |
| 1:33.3 | was greater respect for the elders, and I think also perhaps greater respect for the young. |
| 1:38.0 | And there can be a deeper sharing of information. And when I say information, I don't just mean |
| 1:43.6 | data. I really mean the wisdom-born |
| 1:46.2 | of life experience. I know in my own life, I do feel like the second half of life is where you |
| 1:52.1 | try to understand everything you went through in the first half of life. I had read somewhere |
| 1:57.9 | that in youth, you learn in age you understand. |
| 2:02.6 | And I am sometimes surprised myself at how much of my own life is spent trying to understand |
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