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Welcome to the Render NBA show. I'm Chris Vernon joining me as he does every Tuesday is from the ringer.

Kevin O'Connor. Kevin.

How do I know this is actually you, Chris? How can I know for sure?

Oh, I suppose you can only take me at my word and I sound like myself, right? You know what I sound like.

So you'd be very difficult for someone to sound like me.

Oh, and I should have 20 unique voice.

Yeah, and I should have dropped the AKA Kevin O'Concert.

Because last week you spoke to how you never go to concerts and there we were

the social media followers of one Kevin O'Connor, Kevin O'Concert himself,

who said that you were very excited to see who was it. It was like arcade fire.

Somebody like that. Arcade fire. Yes.

Yeah. Did they did they exceed your expectations?

Yeah, it's my third time seeing them. They're terrific. They're great. Everybody should see them.

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