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Masters of Scale

Duolingo’s battle for learning in an AI world, with Luis von Ahn

Masters of Scale

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Startups, Business, Mindset, Management, Bob Safian, Entrepreneurship, Diversity & Inclusion, Reid Hoffman, Jeff Berman

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

When Duolingo CEO Luis von Ahn sent an internal memo about AI last year, he didn't expect it to go viral — or to ignite a firestorm about the future of work. Now he joins Rapid Response to unpack what he got right, what he got wrong, and what the backlash taught him about the real limitations of AI. Von Ahn also reveals why he's made a deliberate pivot in 2026: chasing users, not revenue — and what that bet says about how big Duolingo can get before ads become inevitable. It's a candid reckoning with hype, growth, and the surprisingly complicated promise of technology in education.

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0:00.0

As your company scales, the hardest part isn't ambition, it's alignment. That's why Atlassian built

0:07.3

the teamwork collection, an AI-powered teamwork platform designed to help teams move faster together.

0:13.1

By connecting Jira, Confluence, Lume, and Rovo, teams can easily align work to real business goals,

0:20.5

plan and track progress together,

0:22.6

remove knowledge silos, and access the real magic of AI plus human collaboration.

0:29.0

Visit at lassean.com slash team changer to learn more. That's A-T-L-A-S-S-I-A-N.com slash team changer.

0:41.8

Founders ship faster on deal. Set up payroll for any country and minutes, hire anyone,

0:47.1

anywhere, and get visas handled fast, so you stay focused on scaling.

0:52.0

Deal takes care of onboarding, HR, IT, EOR, benefits, and compliance,

0:57.4

so your team can grow without borders.

1:00.2

It's why more than 40,000 fast-growing companies

1:02.5

trust Deal to move fast.

1:04.3

Visit deal.com slash M-O-S.

1:06.5

That's D-E-E-L-com slash M-O-S.

1:12.1

Hey folks, Jeff Berman here.

1:14.3

Exciting news.

1:15.8

Applications are now open for the Masters of Scale Summit.

1:20.5

It's happening October 20th through October 22nd in San Francisco, and it is a really special event.

1:28.3

Please join our curated community of founders, innovators, and leaders shaping the future.

1:34.4

Expect ideas that challenge your assumptions and connections that move your business

1:38.8

and maybe even your life forward.

1:42.0

It's an experience that can change literally everything. Apply now at

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