Dungeons, Dragons, and Demonic Delu-lu w/ Sarah Marshall

Scam Goddess

Earwolf

Comedy, True Crime

4.8 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Laci welcomes back journalist, writer, and podcaster Sarah Marshall (You’re Wrong About, The Devil You Know). They unpack one of the wildest hoaxes of the Satanic Panic era— the claim that Dungeons & Dragons was a literal gateway to hell. CON-gregation, stay blessed — not possessed! Also, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. CW: @43:24 Mention of Unliving. Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Sarah Marshall’s You’re Wrong About Pod : @yourewrongaboutpod Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://medium.com/belover/in-the-1980s-a-woman-spread-a-hoax-that-dungeons-dragons-is-satanic-cb8da5614132 https://app.podscribe.com/episode/140508838?transcriptVersionReqId=46eb5796-f194-4b89-80a5-c951cbe7b00f https://gametree.me/blog/how-many-people-can-play-dnd/ https://www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/qvnhcp/dd_veterans_of_the_80s_and_90s_what_reaction_did/ https://reason.com/2018/04/07/the-radical-freedom-of-dungeon/ http://www.believermag.com/issues/200609/?read=article_lafarge /http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/news/2008/03/ff_gygax?currentPage=all https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2019/09/disappearances-dragons-the-james-dallas-egbert-iii-story/ https://www.kismetrose.com/antirpg/PullingObituary091997.html https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26328105

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0:00.0	Scam! Cards. Robbery and fraud.
0:09.0	Scam. Cards. Robbery. And fraud. Scam goddess.
0:19.7	What's Popping Congregation?
0:21.4	It's your girl Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess, back for the podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
0:28.1	Yes, it is a comedy show.
0:29.5	Just like to remind you guys sometimes, because y'all be seeing me on TV doing true crime.
0:33.4	And then when I'm an unsurious lady, y'all get a little mad.
0:36.8	Y'all get in those comments and do those Apple reviews.
0:39.7	If you want to do some activism today, give a black woman five stars.
0:43.2	And then you can feel good about yourself.
0:44.9	Talk about it at dinner parties.
0:47.1	So today I'm super what?
0:49.7	Yes, excited, thrilled, elated to have one of the most fantastic guests that we've ever had on the show back again.
0:57.6	She's a journalist, a writer, a podcaster, and she's a host of, I don't know, y'all know this podcast.
1:03.2	You're wrong about.
1:04.4	A podcast where she reconsiders an event, person, or phenomenon that's been miscast in the public imagination.
1:12.3	Oh, I've learned so many things. And most recently, she just dropped an eight-part series where she dives in and explores the tangled
1:17.8	web of the satanic panic, taking you everywhere from Victoria, BC, to rural Kentucky on the podcast.
1:26.2	The Devil You Know with Sarah Marshall. That's the podcast. The Devil
1:30.6	You Know. Congregation. Please welcome back this genius gal Sarah Marshall to the show. Hi, Sarah.
1:38.7	Hi. I'm so happy to be here. I also have a little cold. So I'm going to be making some unholy sounds over here. And it's
1:46.3	just me. It's not demons. It's not demons. I feel like that's what they say before it's demons.
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