Hey, what's up everyone? How you doing? Ben Kissel here from Side Stories. We are doing a special episode this week because it's Thanksgiving!

Gabble, Gabble, Gabble! It's an interesting interview that Henry Zabrowski and I did with Kevin Anderson and Brian Herbert.

You may know Brian Herbert's name from the famed Dune series. Of course, I'm sure if you listen to this show,

you've heard Henry talk about Dune and you've heard my beef futilement. So we'll get a little bit of that in this interview as well.

It's a great conversation. We hope you enjoy it. We hope you're having a great Thanksgiving so far and the family isn't driving you to nuts.

And hopefully you're not feeling lonely or anything like that. Enjoying some turkey, some toeferky, some wine, some good, great juice, whatever the hell you're into.

We hope you're enjoying yourselves and we hope that you enjoy this conversation.

Right from North Laid.

Today we are honored to have with us and this is really Henry what a moment for you. I'm so excited for you.

I'm excited for me and I'm excited for the audience. We are honored to be joined by Kevin Anderson and Brian Herbert.

They are the authors of an upcoming book called the Dune called Dune Duke of Caladan. And I am very excited.

Jesus Christ, get some.

I nailed it. Duke Dune Duke of Caladan.

Is that better? What am I supposed to do?

This sounds like morning clock radio in Los Angeles.

What it is?

What's that?

It is very, very similar.

What did I do wrong? Dune Duke of Caladan.

Now you got it.

Now you got it.

What I said it before. I said it right three times.

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