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Imaginary Worlds

Dumbledore's Army (Updated)

Imaginary Worlds

Eric Molinsky

Arts, Science Fiction, Fiction, Society & Culture

4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In 2016, I put out an episode about how JK Rowling’s themes in the Harry Potter series inspired a generation of progressive activists including Jackson Bird, who was the spokesperson for the Harry Potter Alliance. Jackson is also trans. Recently, JK Rowling has alienated many of her fans and supporters with her views on transgender rights. I catch up with Jackson Bird to discuss how he’s handling the cognitive dissonance of being inspired by the messages in the Harry Potter books while feeling profound disappointment in JK Rowling. Jackson Bird’s Op-Ed response to JK Rowling in The New York Times Responding to JK Rowlings Essay | Is It Anti-Trans? by Jamie Raines and Shaaba Harry Potter Saved My Life. J.K. Rowling Is Now Endangering Trans People Like Me by Kacen Callender Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Tab for a cause is a browser extension that lets you raise money for charity while doing

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your thing online.

0:06.6

Whenever you open a new tab, you'll see a beautiful background photo and a small ad.

0:11.6

And part of that ad money goes towards a charity of your choice.

0:15.6

It's free and incredibly easy.

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Transform your tabs into a force for good in just 30 seconds.

0:22.4

Sign up at tabforacaws.org slash imaginary worlds.

0:29.7

We're listening to imaginary worlds and show how we create them and why we suspend

0:33.7

our disbelief.

0:35.0

I'm Eric Mollinsky.

0:38.0

Four years ago, I did a mini-series about how the Harry Potter books had impacted millennials.

0:44.1

The last episode in that mini-series was called Dumbledore's Army.

0:47.8

And it looked at how young progressive activists were inspired by the Harry Potter books and

0:53.4

by JK Rowling herself.

0:56.2

In that episode, I interviewed Jackson Bird.

0:59.2

At the time, he was the spokesperson for the Harry Potter Alliance, which is a social

1:04.2

justice organization.

1:06.1

Jackson is also trans.

1:08.4

And as you probably know, JK Rowling has recently alienated a lot of her fans, people who run

1:14.2

her website, people who worked with her in publishing, and the stars of the Harry Potter

1:18.8

movies with her anti-transgender views, although she says she is not anti-transgender.

1:27.4

So I want to play the original episode.

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