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Tim Healy, NC State Icepack coach is going to join us in a little bit to talk about the...

We're going to wax philosophical aren't we're

going to get very philosophical about the state of hockey get into a little bit of the hey soccer

why can't you do this and also the impacts on you know ratings about the NHL and NHL owners not

wanting this best on best because they have the investment.

They're the one that pays the players.

But there is something that I think all of us can agree on is that if you're looking at this

from a straight numbers perspective or ratings go up perspective, then you're missing the point.

And there is a larger point being made by what the women have been able to do with hockey

and what the men accomplished on Sunday morning over Canada.

So we'll talk about that with Tim Healy and some other amusing things that I found from the gold medal game on Sunday morning.

Which, by the way, 8, 10 in the morning hockey, first and foremost,

I feel like four seasons, I feel like four seasons of travel hockey prepared me for that

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