DUGGAR FAMILY -Shiny Happy People-Dr John takes us inside what's really going on inside the documentary

Hidden True Crime

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4.6 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2023

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Hosts Dr John Matthias and Lauren Matthias take listeners inside the Shiny Happy People documentary about the Josh Duggar family, IBLP and Bill Gothard. DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day. Dr. Matthias is an adjunct assistant professor in the University of Nevada Las Vegas clinical psychology doctoral program. He supervises UNLV doctoral students on forensic assessments, clinical case formulation, and various therapeutic approaches to clinical work. LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes and criminals to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and has been reporting with News Nation throughout the trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist. Contact them at HiddenTrueCrimeInfo@gmail.com WEBSITE: https://hiddentruecrime.com/ TO SUPPORT: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime https://paypal.me/hiddentruecrime https://cash.app/$hiddenTruecrime. #joshduggar #shinyhappypeople Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hidden, a true crime podcast. A forensic psychologist and a journalist explore the hidden
0:12.0	motives behind unthinkable crimes while examining our deepest fears along the way.
0:20.0	Hi, everyone. Thank you for being here tonight. We know that not everyone has seen or has been
0:36.0	able to even watch shiny happy people. It's the latest most popular documentary on Amazon Prime.
0:42.0	I've heard, I don't know if it's true, but some of our overseas listeners or in Australia,
0:46.0	or in Australia, Australia, they're not able to watch it. Never fear. I think that this is going to be a great
0:54.0	conversation among friends, whether you've seen the documentary or not. It is essentially the story of the
1:02.0	Dugger family. Josh Dugger was convicted of looking at SA material, child essay material, if everyone
1:10.0	understands that abuse material. He has seven children of his own. He was in politics. He was on a
1:18.0	TLC for years and years with his family, the Duggers, Jim Bob and Michelle and their Christian
1:24.0	ideals and the well-behaved 19 kids and counting. Why don't we start with the title shiny happy people,
1:34.0	which is, I think I take this to be a nod to the REM song, which I haven't heard it in a long time,
1:40.0	but I played it like an hour before our show to just kind of revisit the song. The song is shiny happy people.
1:46.0	The reason why I think it's relevant to this documentary, there's a lot of reasons why it's relevant, but
1:52.0	in the documentary, there's a lot of talk about a guy named Bill Gothard, who started the institute
2:00.0	in basic life principles or IBLP is what it's called. And Bill Gothard wrote a series of books called The Wisdom
2:10.0	Booklets, which he dispensed widely to homeschools or home for homeschooling, which espoused Christian
2:17.0	principles based on his interpretation of the Bible. And in one of the wisdom booklets, Bill Gothard says that
2:26.0	rock music and rock and roll music corrupts. In fact, he goes so far as to say that rock music is satanic
2:34.0	and demonic. And so I couldn't help but laugh at the irony of a show about Bill Gothard essentially
2:43.0	with one of the most popular pop songs of all time, which happens to be a rock song by REM, which
2:50.0	apparently is satanic, but that didn't stop the producers from using it. So there's a couple lines in that
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