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Welcome back to Potsade the World.

This is my second shot as an intro because I forgot to turn my mic on the first time.

This is a special Christmas edition Potsade the World where we talk about nuclear annihilation

at the hands of North Korea.

My guest today is Corey Shaki.

She has served in various very important policy roles at the White House, the NSC, the Department

of Defense, the State Department.

She is also, as she will detail for you, a rock-ribbed Republican and conservative and

someone who is not making a criticism of Trump's foreign policy on partisan grounds.

She wrote a piece for the Atlantic about how the rhetoric around North Korea is sounding

frighteningly like the rhetoric that led up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

I think it is an unbelievably important conversation to be had now and not before the Trump

administration potentially starts the drumbeat's war.

We need to understand the costs involved on military conflict, the stakes involved, and

understand what's possible from a policy perspective.

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