Drum Tower: The cage–part one

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🗓️ 6 June 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Uyghurs inside China have long been persecuted. From 2017 to 2019, more than a million Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities were locked up in "re-education camps" in Xinjiang. Many of the camps have now been closed but Uyghurs are threatened if they speak out. And the Chinese Communist Party is also trying to silence and control Uyghurs outside China.

In this first episode of a special two-part series, The Economist’s senior China correspondent, Alice Su, meets two Uyghurs, Nigara and Kewser, who have left China. What price do they each have to pay to stay in contact with their loved ones in China?

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Alice Sue.
0:04.1	For months, I've been investigating how the Chinese government is trying to silence
0:08.0	and control Uighurs outside China.
0:11.5	This is the first episode of The Cage, a special two-part series for drum tower.
0:17.0	Before, I didn't really understand those four-doubts.
0:26.0	Yeah, it's like what does it mean?
0:28.0	Yeah.
0:29.0	Now it's clear.
0:31.0	Now it's clear for me.
0:33.0	I've known Abdul Ali Ayyoupe for years.
0:36.8	He's a linguist and an activist.
0:39.3	And he's from a city in China's northwestern region of Xinjiang.
0:43.4	He used to run a school there teaching his mother tongue, Uighur.
0:47.8	Abdul Ali was imprisoned and tortured for that back in 2013.
0:54.5	After his release, he left China.
0:56.8	He eventually ended up in Norway, where he's been helping journalists to cover Xinjiang
1:00.8	from outside.
1:03.0	But that work has been getting harder.
1:05.7	There's a bird in the cage and there's another guy who's really strong.
1:12.8	But his life is not the real life.
1:17.7	A few months ago, I met Abdul Ali in Istanbul and he told me an old Uighur folktale.
1:25.0	If the caged bird is alive and singing, the strong person outside the cage is alive and
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