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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

Driving alignment and urgency within teams, work-life balance, and the changing PM landscape | Nikita Miller (The Knot, Trello)

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

Lenny Rachitsky

Technology, Business, Entrepreneurship

51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

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Nikita Miller is a product leader, angel investor, and advisor. She has built and led product teams at companies ranging from early-stage startups to multinationals, and she is currently SVP of Product Management at The Knot Worldwide. Nikita is passionate about scaling product teams to support high-growth businesses and was a product leader at Trello and Atlassian for five years. In today’s podcast, we cover:

• Lessons from building and growing Trello

• Nikita’s roles and responsibilities framework

• How the PM landscape is changing

• Lessons about managing remote teams

• Tactics for driving urgency within teams

• Why working cross-culturally was such a formative experience

Find the transcript and references at: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/driving-alignment-and-urgency-within-teams-work-life-balance-and-the-changing-pm-landscape-nikita-miller-the-knot-trello/#transcript

Where to find Nikita Miller:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/nikitadyer

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikitadyer/

Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Nikita’s background

(03:56) How Nikita helped Trello develop enterprise features

(09:41) Trello vs. Jira

(10:28) Similarities and differences between building for users at The Knot vs. Trello

(15:02) Pro tips for Trello users

(15:41) Nikita’s roles and responsibilities framework

(21:10) Why scrum masters are disappearing and what shifts are happening on teams

(21:56) Why every team should have a data scientist embedded in it

(23:27) The proper cadence for the rules and responsibilities framework, and problems around execution

(25:27) Outcomes and output

(28:34) The importance of urgency, and how to cultivate a sense of urgency

(29:52) How to determine if your team is moving quickly enough

(31:03) Prioritization between big bets and optimizations

(31:29) Questions Nikita asks to understand her team’s speed

(33:30) Changes in the field of product management

(36:42) Advice for people who want to get into product

(38:40) Why being a PM is hard, and thoughts on work-life balance

(43:03) How to manage remote teams and how to do successful, short, in-person meetups

(47:59) The importance of having overlapping work hours and onboarding in person

(49:09) The advantages of working in different cultures

(52:58) The question Nikita finds most useful

(55:07) Lightning round

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Disclosure: I am a Wealthfront client and I have received non-cash compensation for the testimonial in this episode.



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Transcript

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0:00.0

and many of the companies that I've either worked with or advised, coached over the past few years,

0:06.0

it was all about outcomes, like everyone was outcomes, outcomes, outcomes, which is right.

0:11.4

You want to make sure you're doing the right thing with the right goal and that's fine.

0:16.2

And some folks, you know, myself included at certain points like swung way too far on the outcome strain and forgot that output is an indicator of that.

0:27.6

So if you have a team that's doing all of the ideation and figuring out, you know, how to make decisions quickly and getting the right

0:34.8

documentation and setting up the right product briefs and design briefs and

0:39.0

experiment briefs all the things that we know go into successful product development, that's great.

0:45.5

But if you're also not shipping a lot of things to market quickly enough, then it just doesn't

0:48.9

matter that much.

0:49.9

Welcome to Lenny's Podcast, where I interview world-class product leaders and growth

0:56.8

experts to learn from their hard-won experiences building and growing today's

1:00.3

most successful products. Today my guest is Nikita Miller. A huge

1:04.7

thank you to Camille Ricketts for recommending Nikita and for connecting us.

1:08.3

Nikita is Senior Vice President and Head a product at the Not Worldwide.

1:13.0

Before that, she was VP a product at Dooley,

1:15.0

and before that she was head of growth and retention at Trello

1:18.0

for over five years.

1:20.0

In our conversation, we dig into how product managers and people getting married are similar.

1:26.2

A bunch of advice on getting into product management, a really cool framework for how to align

1:30.3

roles and responsibilities within your cross-functional teams, a bunch of advice for working

1:35.2

effectively as a remote and distributed team, and the one question that Nikita asks constantly

1:40.1

to get the most out of her teams. Nikita is amazing and I am excited for you to learn from her.

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