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Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

Drew Amstutz - Surviving Conversion Therapy

Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Belief, and Manipulation

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True Crime, Talk Radio, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Episode 61: Lola & Meagan share a heartfelt conversation with conversion therapy survivor Drew Amstutz about growing up gay as a pastor's kid, being forced into conversion therapy, having suicidal ideations, and how he coped and found a way out. If you have your own story about cults, high-control groups, manipulation, or abuse of power, shoot us an email at [email protected]. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM: @trustmepodcast @oohlalola @vibehigherbitch OR TWITTER: @trustmecultpod @ohlalola

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0:00.0

If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group or if you've had an experience with manipulation or abuse of power you'd like to share, leave us a message on our hotline number at 513-900-2955.

0:11.0

Or shoot us an email at TrustMePod at gmail.com.

0:15.0

Trust me, do you trust me?

0:18.0

Trust me, I'm like a smart person.

0:20.0

Yeah, I've never lied to you.

0:22.0

I've never had lied to you.

0:24.0

If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

0:28.0

If I'm gonna trust me, the podcast about cult, extreme belief and the abuse of power from two former high schoolers.

0:35.0

Is that what we said, former teenagers?

0:38.0

Who've actually experienced it?

0:40.0

I am Lola Blonk and I am Megan Elizabeth.

0:42.0

And today our guest is Drew Amsteads.

0:44.0

He is a student and survivor of conversion therapy and he is adorable.

0:48.0

He's going to talk to us about coming out to his parents and being sent to a counselor who tried to make him straight.

0:53.0

How he began to believe what the counselor said and how dark things got for him during that period.

0:58.0

He'll also tell us what he did to cope, how he came out of it and finally spoke his truth and where he's at now.

1:04.0

Before we dive in with Drew, I'm Megan.

1:07.0

Could you kindly tell me the coldest things happening this week?

1:09.0

Yes, I surely can.

1:10.0

This ties back into our Amanda Knox cognitive bias.

1:14.0

What I've noticed that I'm doing is there's an action bias, right?

1:18.0

You just start doing action because it feels like it's better than doing nothing.

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