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For the seven billion people in the world, we all have one thing in common.

Every day, we all get dressed. Welcome to Dressed, the history of fashion.

The podcast where we explore the who, what, when, of why we wear

for your fashion historians and your hosts, April Callahan.

And Cassidy Zachary. Dress listeners, high heels have long been the domain of women,

but first they were worn by men. Join us as we step into the Dressed archival

closet to revisit our 2019 interview with Bada Shumizum,

senior curator, Elizabeth Simmelhack, and track the evolution of the high heel as worn by

male cavalry to irrational women. Enjoy.

Elizabeth, welcome to the show today. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I cannot even tell you what a pleasure this is. I mean, I have really come across your

research and read your work so many times. This is a true honor to have you here with us today.

And before we dive into the fascinating history of high heels, I am hoping you can tell us about

the Bada Shumizum, its origin, and its incredible collection.

Absolutely. So the museum started a long time ago when Mrs. Bada married Mr. Bada,

and he was already the head of very large shoe organization. And in 1946, as a young bride,

she really wanted to travel with him, she wanted to be a part of the business,

and the business was already at that point global. And so she began to travel,

go around the world, and she made a very astute observation, which was, although people's feet

are basically the same, no matter where you go around the world, what they have traditionally

put on them is incredibly different. And so there must be cultural, social, environmental

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