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Hello, and welcome to the Bachelor podcast. I'm Kay York City.

And I am Jared Fried. It is so good to be back here with you, Kay. The Golden Bachelor.

I have to say, I walk away going classic bachelor. It's a classic bachelor, but it also feels new again.

It's nice to see petty drama, but also not for drama's sake. It felt like real drama. What did you think? How did you feel?

I understand why people watch Real Housewives now, because watching older women have drama and argue and get in petty fights is way more entertaining than watching people our age do the same bullshit.

This is way more entertaining.

It was interesting to watch, definitely entertaining. Yeah, just like the people, you know, and again, like sometimes I get the, I don't know if you get this from your parents, you hear about the drama going on in their life.

Oh, yeah, amongst their friends. And you hear that side of the conversation. This felt like that. This felt like.

And the other thing is everything's high school, like the way we are in high schools, the way you are when you're 70, like we see in the beginning of this episode, this need to like, here's the group.

And we're one group. And that's another group. And, and, and, you know, it's like that stuff never, you never age out of, right?

Like, it's very clicky. It's very interesting watching them like group off like that. Like you said. And also you also feel the need to defend. I was wanting to stick up for Theresa at the end.

I'm like, really? Okay. I mean, I felt a little bit like I understand why Kathy felt the way she did. But at the same time, I'm like, poor Theresa, she felt so bad. Like, I was sad a little bit.

We're going to talk about this because I, I think Theresa, like, again, the fun of this is like none of this is surprising or unrecognizable to me.

There is not one character on this that I'm like, where do they come from? Everyone represents a friend of my mom's, my mom, people I've seen before.

You know, arguments I've seen before, like, they're, you know, they're all stereotypes. They're all stereotypes of different older women that you've known or been introduced to.

Yes. And, you know, I don't know if you've seen this on your end, but like, they're, you can tell it's people who aren't watching this show just being like, you know, that here and there. I'm not saying they're all comments, but a couple comments here and there that are like, wow, this is sad or like, you know, that this is,

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