Good evening.

Well, that was quite the introduction.

How are you doing, Mr. Real?

Life is good. How are you doing?

I'm doing great. Thank you so much.

I'm very excited to be here tonight.

And to talk a little bit about what some of our detractors.

Yes, we actually have detractors.

I know it's hard to believe.

But talk a little bit about what they've been saying about us.

Yeah, it'll be, I think, a lot of fun.

There is the certain crowd.

These are the folks that are sort of the opposite of the neo-apologist.

There's the regular apologist, Dan Peterson and Lou Midgeley and those guys.

Then there's the neo-apologist, the Patrick Mason's and Terrell Givens of the world,

who are just so kind.

They are.

And, you know, Givens, I think, has referenced Shakespeare a few times. I don't think he's read as much as Radio Free Mormon, that's for sure. But these guys have sort of the ones we're going to talk about tonight are the folks who sort of come to apologetics from a very different angle. And it'll be a blast to show some of these clips i know we're focusing mostly on the midnight Mormons who now have a new podcast well he says a new name called psych ward radio

and they cover things like aliens abductions um wearwolves vampires the harrowing of hell

uh things like that they've've actually, I think,

become the Mormon apologetic version of the National Enquirer. Yeah. When you look at some of

the topics they cover. In fact, let me see if I can, well, I'll put the thumbnail back up,

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