Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show of a very special guest. I was delighted that he agreed to the interview. Very interesting book that ties into some of my research. The author's name is Tony Russo, and he wrote a book May 25th, 2021 titled Drag Into the Light, Truthers, Reptilians, Super, and the death and death inside an online cult.

And this is not his first book.

He's written two books on beer.

One is Eastern Shore Beer, the heady history of Chesapeake Brewing, 2014, and Delaware

Beer, the story of brewing in the first state, 2016.

And the website for this book is dragged into the light, all one word.com.

So, www.

Drag Into the Light.com.

And Tony has been involved also in another podcast, which you can check out.

Title of that, and it's about war.

This is war, and he did that for two years.

But this book kind of came to mind.

I interviewed a well-known cult expert by the name of Rick Ross.

And when we finished up that conversation with Rick, there was a question like,

what do you see on the horizon?

And he said, yeah, the future is going to be some kind of internet cult or some kind of,

and he mentioned some woman's name, though I don't't know but i remember that interview when i was reading through this book

dragged into the light but uh really a great book and very timely so tony russo are you there yes hi thank

you very much um i have a i have a quick fun story about r Rick Ross, who I also interviewed.

I interviewed him for a different project that really, you know,

ended up not going where I wanted it to go.

I was interested in the RSE, the Ramtha School of Enlightenment in the Pacific Northwest.

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