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I wanted to do a top 10 coaches show because it's that time of year and I always just find it it's a really useful exercise and I really like talking about coaches in that way and really digging deep on them. And I couldn't think of a better person to do that with. Our Rams writer here at The Athletic, the host of the Playcaller's podcast that ran on this feat last year. And that's Jordan Roder. Jordan has

done a phenomenal job of covering the coaching landscape around the league. Obviously, you know,

she's gotten to watch a really good one up close and personal as our Rams writer and what Sean McVe

has done over the last, his entire tenure in Los Angeles, honestly. But, you know, she's done

fantastic work along the coaching landscape outside of her

time covering the Rams. So I thought that Jordan did an unbelievable job of offering insight into

how these guys tick and who they are and what makes them special as she was ticking down

her top 10 and figuring out who to put in there. So very excited for you guys to hear about why Jordan had these folks on her top 10 list

and why she had them ranked this way.

But you know what?

Let's just get to it.

Joining us now, it is our Rams writer here at The Athletic and the creator of the new

Finding Rams draft series that you guys should absolutely go check out that ran, I believe, in May right after the draft happened, that is a fantastic behind the scenes look at an entire year-long scouting process with the NFL team. It is Jordan Roderick. Jordan, really good to have you back. I'm glad to be back. We're going to have some fun today. I've been excited for this. So I wanted to do top 10 coaches, and I was trying to figure out how I wanted to do it who I wanted to do it with. And we're going to have some fun today. I've been excited for this. So I wanted to do top 10

coaches and I was trying to figure out how I wanted to do it, who I wanted to do it with. And we're going to do a draft today because I have decided that drafts are just the more dynamic way to do this. Rather than us listing off top tens, be like, oh, I had that guy seventh and where do we talk about him and it just becomes a little bit naughty. So I think that drafts while gimmicky,

there's a reason that they work.

So we're going to draft coaches today.

And I was thinking about who I wanted to have this discussion with.

And I'm not sure there's anyone else in America who has thought more about NFL coaches

in so many different ways over the last three or four years than you have. So the way that we both

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