Hey there, this is Ari. Welcome back to the energy blueprint podcast. With me today is Dr. Tom

O'Brien, who is the founder of the doctor.com and the author of The Best Own Books, The Auto-Aviewed Fix,

and You Can Fix Your Brain.

He's considered a Sherlock Holmes for chronic disease and metabolic disorders.

He holds teaching faculty positions with the Institute for Functional Medicine and the National University of Health Sciences.

In this interview, we're going to talk about gluten, controversies,

EMS, toxins, and the best nutrition for brain health for optimizing your energy levels. Enjoy the episode.

Welcome, Dr. O'Brien, such a pleasure to connect with you again. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure

to be with you. So let's jump straight into it.

There's a lot of gluten and wheat related stuff in your bio there. What is the deal with wheat and

gluten? And is this only a problem for people with celiac disease or people who have known

gluten sensitivity.

What's your take on sort of the broad picture of wheat and gluten in human health?

You bet, thanks.

My take is from reading hundreds and hundreds of studies, literally, over the years. I started talking about this in 1996 in talks and doing blood

tests to look at all this stuff. And I've just been, my library is, I don't know how many

thousands of articles on this. There are 23,000 currently on PubMed, 23,000 articles on this topic. And so this is not my opinion.

When you read the science, it just drops your jaw. So I'll give you the big picture view about wheat.

Wheat is a minor irritant for most people, a minor irritant. But in everyone,

wheat, if it comes out of the stomach, undigested thoroughly, which it always does, because no

human can digest it thoroughly, when it comes out of the stomach, your sentries standing guard to protect you in the first

part of the immune system called the proximal part of the immune system, they're called dendritic

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