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Joining us now is Dr. Suzanne O'Sullivan.

She's a consultant neurologist and clinical neurophysiologist.

She's the author of The Age of Diagnosis, how our obsession with medical labels is making

a sicker, super interesting topic.

Doctor, thank you for joining me here.

Thanks so much for having me. to me is so interesting my my husband is a physician and you know they always say like

you know what is it the cobbler's children have no shoes so whenever i'm sick and was like

oh i think i got this i think i got that he yeah, you're fine. Take some Tylenol.

So do we need to go back a little bit to that?

That's my first quote.

Do we need to go back a little bit to the, yeah, you're fine type type thing as opposed to everybody has an illness that they wear on their sleeve.

It's got to be chronic.

And we live in a society where they

have to wear it and they have to tell you all about it and make a video about, well, I'm

neurodivergent and I'm depressed and I have anxiety and ADHD and all of these things. Have we

gone too far? I possibly wouldn't put it quite as strongly as you just have, but I certainly think we could perhaps go back a little bit, not back to how things were in the past.

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