Welcome to Dr. Stu's podcast.

It's Dr. Stu in for Brian, who's probably out sick today.

And this is our podcast number 88.

I'm very excited to be here.

I've got Randy, the producer.

Hey, Dr. Stu.

And we've got two special guests today, which we're going to get right into because

we know our podcasts go by really, really quickly.

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you. You did it. I know. I got through that. Pretty good. Thanks, Randy. So anyway,

I'm here today with actually two very important people in the Los Angeles birth scene.

The first one I'm going to introduce is a colleague of mine. He's an obstetrician gynecologist, and he's a fellow of the American College, W. GYN.

His name is Dr. David Gosland.

He has a private practice in Santa Monica.

And he is here to talk today about a really interesting topic called Mother Friendly Cicerian Section, which, of course, obviously, you know, on the Dr. Sue's podcast,

we talk about how there's way too many cesarean sections in the country, and we're doing

what we can to try to bring common sense to birthing, but some cesarean sections are

necessary. And there's things that we can do that make cesarean sections better for mom and

better for baby. And Dr. Gosselin's here to talk about

that today. We also have Cordelia Hanna, who is, she's the executive director of the Association for

Holistic Maternal Newborn Health. And she is putting together a big conference here in Los Angeles

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