Dr Steven Phillipson: Sleep… the hostage of anxiety (#342)
The OCD Stories
Stuart
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🗓️ 14 August 2022
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
In episode 342 I chat with Dr Steven Phillipson. Steven is a licensed clinical psychologist who specialises in Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy for OCD. Steven is the Clinical Director at the Center for Cognitive Behavioral Psychotherapy in New York.
We discuss why sleep is the hostage of anxiety, desperation around sleep, what is sleep and the stages of sleep, how sleep medication, alcohol, and benzodiazepines can affect sleep quality, using sleep as avoidance, insomnia, sleep as an independent system, how trying to sleep may be causing a lack of it, what Steve doesn’t like about the CBT sleep hygiene approach, Steve’s approach to helping his clients sleep, why sleep shouldn’t be the goal, getting an OCD spike at night, OCD in our dreams, and much more. Hope it helps.
Show notes: https://theocdstories.com/episode/steve-phillipson-sleep-342
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to The O. C.D do this for interviewing inspired therapists, |
| 0:15.2 | psychologists and people who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD stories. |
| 0:22.1 | Welcome to episode 342 of the podcast. |
| 0:25.0 | And in this one I got back on Dr Stephen Philipson. |
| 0:28.0 | Stephen is a licensed clinical psychologist. |
| 0:31.0 | And this one in particular particular we talk about sleep |
| 0:33.7 | including desperation around sleeping what is sleep and the stages of sleep how |
| 0:39.8 | sleep medication alcohol and benzodiazepines can affect sleep quality. |
| 0:45.0 | Using sleep as avoidance, insomnia, sleep as an independent system, |
| 0:50.0 | how trying to sleep may be causing a lack of it. |
| 0:53.0 | What Steve doesn't like about the CBT sleep hygiene approach? |
| 0:57.0 | Steve's approach to helping his client's sleep. |
| 1:00.0 | Why sleep shouldn't be the goal, |
| 1:02.0 | getting an OCD spike at night, OCD in our dreams and much more. |
| 1:07.0 | This episode is supported by Cambridge University Press and Dr Lynn Drummond's new book, Everything You Need to Know about O. CED. |
| 1:15.0 | Now Lynn was on the last episode of the podcast, and definitely check that out if you want to find out more about her and her new book. |
| 1:21.0 | Lynn's book describes and evaluates pros and cons of various treatments |
| 1:24.6 | including psychological and pharmacological treatments, empowering people to advocate for themselves |
| 1:30.0 | in a medical setting. It features self-help chapters about graded exposure therapy. |
| 1:34.4 | It has clinical examples and case histories throughout to help demonstrate points in real terms. |
| 1:39.4 | To get 20% off Lynn's new book, go to Cambridge.org |
| 1:44.3 | forward slash everything OCD, or the link will be in the show notes |
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