In today's special episode of the deep, I sit down with the man I call the American Moses.

Through Dr. Scott Hahn, the Lord has led millions of men and women out of exile and home to the

Catholic Church. Dr. Hahn needs little introduction, a renowned theologian, biblical scholar,

teacher, author, and apologist, he is perhaps most beloved

as the husband of Kimberly Hahn, with whom he authored the story of their journey to Catholicism,

Rome Sweet Home. Our conversation today landed us right at the nerve center of zeal and Catholic

votes mission. Do Catholics have a duty to act when it comes to politics?

And what does that mean? We discuss his book, It Is Right and Just, which he co-authored with

Brandon McGinley in 2020, but which has become even more relevant with the increasing anxieties

of our time in American history. Dr. Hahn argues that the future of civilization

depends on true religion, and those words matter. We talk about justice, secularism,

patriotism, theocracy, and the temptation Catholics feel to keep our religion private.

I also got to ask his personal advice about what

that means concretely for us today. If you have ever felt torn between pursuing Christian

holiness and the mess of politics, if you've ever felt uncomfortable being too obviously

Catholic and public, this conversation is for you.

Dr. Scott Hahn, welcome to the deep. I'm very excited to speak with you today about the relationship

between religion, our Catholic faith and politics. This is right at the nexus of Catholic

votes mission and a topic very dear to my heart as a mother of the next generation of

Americans and the Catholics, student of political philosophy, and in general, just someone

who cares about leaving the next generation, a world where they can

live out the truths of the faith in freedom and in flourishing. So the book will be discussing

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