Hey guys, I'm going to episode 203 of the Ocity stories.

And this episode I interview clinical psychologist

Dr Sally Winston.

Now you may have read her book Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Forts which she co-wrote of Dr. Marty Seif and I got on the

podcast to talk about her new book which she also co-wrote with Marty called Needing to Know

for Sure a CBT-based guide to overcoming

compulsive checking and reassurance seeking. Now reassurance seeking and checking

a common compulsions obviously within ICD so it was great to dedicate

and whole episode to these compulsions and in it I asked obviously about her story what got

her into treating ACD and writing these books.

We talk about wise reassurance seeking a trap, changing relationship with uncertainty,

reducing these compulsions, what it means to live in a world of maybe

being good enough, which is a phrase Sally and Martyr using their book, how families can

support people wanting to break O, reassurance-seeking cycles.

Sticking points to getting past these compulsions.

I really enjoy this episode.

I personally learn a lot from it.

I hope you will too. Yeah so without further ado here is Dr Sally Winston.

On the podcast today I have Dr Sally Winston.

Sally co-founded the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Institute of Maryland in 1992.

She is the co-author of overcoming unwanted intrusive thoughts and co-author of the new book

Needing to Know for Sure, a CBT-based guide to overcoming

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