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Scouting for Growth

Dr Robin Kiera: What is attention hacking?

Scouting for Growth

Sabine VanderLinden

Business:entrepreneurship, Business, Entrepreneurship, Technology

4.835 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

If you have to chase customers, you’ve already lost their attention. In this episode of Scouting for Growth, Sabine VanderLinden speaks with Dr. Robin Kiera, founder of Digital Scouting and one of Europe’s most recognized FinTech and InsurTech influencers, about what the industry still gets wrong about selling. Robin’s career started on the streets of Hamburg, selling insurance policies on commission. Between him and the CEO of Allianz were 27 layers of hierarchy. Between him and the customer? Just the pavement. That experience exposed a painful truth: there was a huge gap between what insurance could be — protection, purpose, support — and what it often felt like in reality: transactional selling disconnected from real customer needs. Fast forward to 2017. Robin launches Digital Scouting as an after-work hobby. No cold calls. No purchased lead lists. Just thought leadership, blogs, conference insights, and relentless content sharing across borders. The result? A 400,000-strong audience and clients standing in line. The shift was simple but profound: move from pushing products to attracting attention. Robin argues that friction tolerance is collapsing. It’s not just Gen Z. Everyone expects seamless, intuitive experiences. Insurance ecosystems in Germany, France, the UK, and the US often operate in silos, despite powerful use cases emerging globally. Robin made it his mission to bridge those gaps — scouting innovation internationally and bringing ideas home. His career pivot shocked many. Leaving a stable corporate role at Allianz to join a young gaming company triggered concern among peers. But security can be misleading. In his view, entrepreneurship carries risk — yet so does stagnation. The lesson? You can always return to corporate life. You cannot reclaim missed opportunity. Robin also challenges the industry’s self-image. Many claim to “consult” rather than sell. But outcomes matter. At the end of the year, revenue reveals the truth. Building Digital Scouting wasn’t without mistakes — but growth was organic. Credibility was earned, not bought. Authenticity, consistency, and global curiosity fueled expansion. This episode is essential listening for: Insurance leaders struggling with digital engagement Startups seeking authentic audience building Executives navigating career reinvention Marketing teams rethinking thought leadership strategy Because in a digital economy, attention precedes transaction. And the insurers who learn to educate, inspire, and engage — rather than interrupt — will own the future. The question is not whether insurance needs better marketing. It’s whether it’s ready to earn attention instead of demanding it.

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0:00.0

The Hi everyone welcome to today's edition of Scouting for Growth. Today I'm meeting my dear friend Dr Robin Kira. Hey thank you very much for the

0:28.3

invitation. Thank you for being with us Robin. Just so that I can tell you a little bit more about Robin.

0:36.4

Robin is one of the most renowned European FinTech, Intio Tech influencer.

0:42.3

Robin set up digital scouting in 2017 and he set that up as a

0:48.7

platform which gathers today 400,000 followers and you know in our industry this is not insignificant.

0:59.2

I remember as well we're actually in a few articles for Robin around business model destruction.

1:06.0

Robin is a thought leader, an entrepreneur, and a senior leader as well.

1:12.0

He's worked with also thought leaders, entrepreneurs and senior managers in finance and insurance now for years.

1:19.0

And what he aims to do is provide practical tools and techniques around lesson learns within our industry, but also within the

1:26.1

initial tech sector. So thank you Robin for being with us today. Thank you for these flattering

1:31.4

words. You have always been my role model so I'm always blushing when people say them things like that.

1:36.7

Yeah, amazing. I mean you have been doing so much work for us. I remember when we've met in conferences where you've been also recording and trying to

1:47.2

to democratize knowledge around insurance and make it simpler. So thank you for your hard work too.

1:53.0

Thanks.

1:55.0

So I want to I want our listeners to understand your parcoo, you know, what got you to where you are today, where you started, and where you are going as well, Robin?

2:06.1

First of all, its life can be ironic because I have now earned a consulting company at a marketing agency and you cannot believe I don't

2:16.3

like these marketing agencies guys and I really despise consultants.

2:20.8

So that's the irony of it all, but let me share what makes it maybe a little bit different.

2:25.0

So I started as an insurance sales agent and also it really started from the ground up sitting on the couches trying to sell liability insurance for 14 euros commission.

2:37.1

So I was part of a management program that was really fancy, but in the end it was selling

2:42.7

insurance policies on the street of Hamburg.

2:47.2

And I always say between me and the Alian CEO were 27

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