Meghan Markle, I absolutely love you. If you're listening to this, we love you here.

Please stay here. Please stay in California. Do you need a pediatrician?

Please do just me.

From Topic Studios and WarnerMedia Podcast Network, this is politically reactive.

I'm Debbie Kamalbeau.

And I'm Harry Kunderbolo and I hold Grudgesbub. I was angry about the British well before the Meghan

Markle interview with Oprah. We're two friends in stand-up comics and dads trying to make sense of

American politics.

Look, Kamal, what is politics really?

Where are you going with this?

I mean, shouldn't a modern expansive definition of politics include, I don't know, say,

basketball? Come on, man, I want to talk about sports. I don't care if we lose friends.

I want to talk about sports.

Then we can definitely talk about the NBA because there's a lot of political activity in and

around that league. That's where I'm talking about. We're talking basketball.

And we're going to be talking about basketball with Mark J. Spears, my friend,

frequent appear on ESPN and senior NBA writer for the undefeated. He's so much about that NBA life

that when players and coaches went into the bubble in Orlando last year, Mark did too.

We were so insulated in there, I don't think they realized how much of an impact they were having

on the outside. He was also at Sunday's NBA All-Star Game. A game a lot of people thought

shouldn't even happen this season.

We'll talk to Mark about how the NBA has become the one major sports league where speaking out

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