Hello and welcome to Under the Skin from Loomery. This week I spoke to Philip Gough.

Dr. Philip Gough is a philosopher who teaches at Durham University and who I briefly knew

when I spoke English as a foreign language years ago in Oxford Street.

Would you believe that?

His author of consciousness and fundamental reality

and another book called, and Galileo's era.

Or is that all one book?

That's what I'm struggling to understand. I think that's two books. I think he pointed that out in the show and as usual Jenny and yes

Jenny's research no one else has shown huge problems and flaws Jenny what do you say

You're gonna upset Charlie why she listens back. Huh she listens back. She listens back.

Of course she does.

Charlie, you're doing great work and we all appreciate you.

Jenny, on the other hand, what terrible work you're doing.

And do we appreciate you even today of all days your birthday your

30th birthday 30 years of Irish femininity and for what Jen for what?

what?

Happy birthday to you.

He's written and appeared in many newspapers,

magazine's Guardian Times,

Literally Supplement Philosophy Now, and I'm talking to him about panpsychism the idea that

consciousness may be a fundamental inherent component of reality as opposed to an incidental or a curd component.

I don't know, he explains it in the podcast, better

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