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but I'm glad you made it. Listen, nice digs you got here. Appreciate it, and you're a solid liar. I can only tell because I've been watching your show and you've told me how to spot a liar. Uh-oh. See, I need to stop doing that. People can pick it out now. It's dangerous.

So let's start from the very beginning. For folks who don't know your story, how did See, I need to stop doing that. People can pick it out now. It's dangerous.

So let's start from the very beginning. For folks who don't know your story, how did you become the Dr. Phil that is a household name? Everybody knows who you are. How did you go from point A to point B?

Well, Oprah has a big part of this. There would be no Dr. Phil without Oprah, of course. I was working as a trial consultant.

I had a trial science firm in Dallas called Courtroom Sciences.

And I represented Oprah as part of her trial team in the Mad Cow case.

People might remember the mad cow case up in Amarillo.

She was sued by the cattle growers. People think it's

a bunch of ranchers, not a bunch of ranchers, a bunch of cattle growers. I mean, these are

with 100,000 cows in a feedlot. She made a comment that they alleged disparaged her about

beef and sued her in Amarillo. And that's behind enemy lines for her. So I helped

defend her in that case up there. And after that, she asked me to be on her show. And after

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