Dr. Phil: From Nice Guy to Nazi (with Aubrey Gordon)

A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein

Matt Bernstein

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News

4.9 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Phil has a new hobby: ICE raids. The daytime television fixture bewildered fans when he began touring with the Trump campaign last year, ending his decades-long streak as a seemingly apolitical celebrity. Like so many 2000s stars, Dr. Phil has found a career revival in right-wing media, advocating for everything from deportations to zionism. But what could explain such a radical shift from the man who spent decades trying to bring families together? In this episode, the inimitable Aubrey Gordon and I take a journey through the 2000s, encountering a motley crew including Oprah, Bhad Bhabie, and Benjamin Netanyahu along the way. Come to find out, the Dr. Phil we know now is the Dr. Phil we knew all along. Listen to bonus episodes on Patreon! Thanks to today’s sponsors! Sleep and dream well! Visit https://helixsleep.com/fruity to take advantage of their Extended Labor Day Sale exclusive partner offer — that’s 27% off sitewide. Get smarter about yours (and others!) news media consumption with Ground News at https://www.ground.news/fruity Start managing your money better and cancel unwanted expenses at https://www.rocketmoney.com/fruity. Listen to Aubrey’s podcast, Maintenance Phase. Find me on Instagram. Find A Bit Fruity on Instagram. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It begs the question, what if you had limitless money and were also completely out of your mind?
0:10.8	Hello, hello, and welcome back to A BitFruity. I'm Matt Bernstein. Do you want to give me like a, and I'm Aubrey Gordon.
0:18.7	I'm Aubrey Gordon. Wow. I've been waiting my whole life for a Aubrey Gordon maintenance phase a bit fruity. I felt really good. I'm really excited to be here, buddy. I'm so stoked. I told you beforehand, I'm coming in so fresh on this topic. And I can't wait to hear everything you've got to tell me about it. Well, I have spent the last two days doing nothing, not even sleep, nothing but watching
0:42.6	Dr. Phil.
0:43.6	All I have on Dr. Phil is sort of like, you know, the sort of ambient kinds of events, like
0:49.4	Bad Baby getting her start on his show. The sort of like, you teach people how to treat you kind of stuff.
0:57.9	And like the general vibe that he's a guy who would maybe defend like the troubled teen industry or something.
1:05.5	Oh yeah.
1:06.1	He's sort of like a tough love kind of a guy.
1:09.3	Seems to be his.
1:10.2	Pick yourself up by your bootstraps, baby.
1:12.4	Oh, Lord.
1:13.5	So, Dr. Phil, the TV doctor, put a pin in that, that we all grew up with in our homes,
1:20.2	has a new hobby, ice raids.
1:23.4	Since the start of Trump's second term, Dr. Phil and his camera crews have been attending
1:28.5	immigration enforcement raids where modern-day Gestapo kidnap human beings off the street
1:33.8	and send them away for deportation. Dr. Phil insists he isn't political, describing himself
1:40.1	as, quote, the least political person I know. He has repeated that claim over and over,
1:46.3	including in a speech he gave at Trump's pre-election New York City rally at Madison Square
1:51.2	Garden, where he said he doesn't know or care much about politics. Politico described Dr. Phil's
1:57.5	frequent participation at ice raids as, quote, an unusual turn for a therapeutic
2:03.1	media personality who got his big break with Oprah Winfrey and for most of his career fastidiously
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