Hey guys and welcome to episode 136 of the OCD stories.com

podcast. Now in this episode I had the privilege of chatting with Dr Patrick McGrath.

I had the honor of meeting Patrick of

chatting with Dr Patrick McGrath. I had the honor of meeting Patrick at the ICTF

conference recently. He is the executive director of the Fogglia

Family Foundation Residential Treatment Center, which

treats people with OCD and also OCD and

addiction combined.

He's also on the Scientific Advisory Board for the ISDF.

We talk about many things, kind of why he got into therapy, and

in some other highlights are we talk about OCD and addiction, why you can treat them together.

Sometimes people treat them separately

but how his clinic treats them together and the good results he's he's seen

from that we talk about mindfulness how it's okay to be uncomfortable in the experience and learning to live with the thoughts.

His clinic runs sort of a,

in mindfulness groups each evening.

We talked about virtual reality.

The first person I've heard talk about this, I've only seen it in scientific studies before.

Which I thought was fascinating, I'm not going to give anything away but it was brilliant.

But then we talk about some advice around ERP and again he, you know, he mentions the whole point

if it's okay to be uncomfortable. We discuss the OCD thinks it's being

helpful. Then we break down, you know, how some people might say OCD is a bully, it's

...