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I'm Dorothy Wickendon, and on today's Politics and More podcast, New Yorker staff writer George Packer talks to Dr. Omar Sali Mahdi. In 2005, Dr. Madi worked as a translator for Packer in Iraq. He and his family have since left the country. He now works as a doctor

at a hospital in Indiana, one of the states that has recently refused to accept Syrian refugees.

New Yorker staff writer George Packer covered the war in Iraq and went on to write the book,

The Assassins Gate. He's written about American politics and many other subjects, but he still

writes about the causes of extremism and its victims. I met Omar Madi in 2005 while I was covering

the Iraq War. He was a doctor before the war, and he went on to work for Western NGOs, and

eventually as an interpreter for journalists, starting with me.

He had a phenomenal memory. He was calm in every situation. And he was an objective and non-sectarian

Iraqi and all those things made him the ideal person to work with in the most dangerous

years of the Iraq war. He and I became very good friends.

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