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Welcome to the Eric Mitaxas show with your host Eric Mitaxas.

Folks, I'm talking to Pastor Mike Thompson of Loss Vegas, the church's word of life,

world outreach. You can find it at wordoflifeworldoutreach.org or you can go to Mike Thompson Ministries.

Pastor Thompson, you were talking about revival and you said ultimately this is about revival, what God is doing.

I think most people who are paying any attention, who have any history, unless they're kids,

they realize that these are the strangest times any of us has ever experienced.

I mean, just there's a level of madness that I would argue most people know it's madness.

I mean, the transgender madness, the vaccine madness, we can't talk about this if you talk about that or talk about that or talk about that or talk about that.

You're going to get canceled. It's just a level of madness that has been unleashed in America.

And I think most people, if they don't have the Lord and if they don't have encouraging voices like yours, they are very, very dismayed right now.

Oh, totally. And I think that because of that hopelessness and because of the confusion that sets into people that they think that what they've got to do is just really comply.

This whole concept of unity of peace. Let's all pull together.

How can you have true unity if it's outside of the Lord Jesus Christ and what God's purposes and plans are for America?

He knows what's right. And so his man, his purposes have to be fulfilled.

And so in these troubling times, I would really encourage people to understand that it's not the time to just comply with anything that's shoved down your throat.

It's a time to actually understand or to evaluate your principles, your walk with the Lord and to see that he has a better future for America if we will do it his way.

What a concept.

You know, when we talk about history and God's hand on history, I really think that again, most of us haven't seen this level of spiritual warfare, warfare manifested in the natural.

I mean, these are crazy times that we have to be honest and say, yes, this is not normal. 20 years ago, we weren't seeing anything like this.

So it seems to me that there have to be battles going on in the heavens that and that God has somehow appointed this.

There are many battles going on in the heavens. Everything that happens in the natural realm is a result of what occurs in the spiritual realm.

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