You're listening to The O. C.D. Stories,

hosted by me, Stuart Ralph.

The O. C. D. Stories is a podcast dedicated to raising awareness and

understanding around obsessive compulsive symptoms.

I do this for interviewing inspired therapists,

psychologists and people who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD stories.

And in this episode I get back on Dr Michael Greenberg. Michael is a licensed clinical psychologist.

He is director of O. C. D. Associates, a practice specializing in rumination focused ERP.

Now, I previously did an episode with Michael called Rumination Is a Compulsion.

It was quite a popular episode, and I got him on to expand on that and how he

uses the R.P. but he focuses it around tackling rumination. So his approach is a little different. So when you listen to this episode,

way up, think for yourself and come to your own conclusions. But it was a very interesting chat

with Michael and in it we specifically talk about why

rumination is a compulsion, rumination focused exposure and response prevention therapy.

How his approach to treating OCD doesn't fit with the habituation model

of ERP, but how it's closer to the inhibitory learning model of OCD.

He gives examples of how he does ERP, how and why he focuses on getting his client's anxiety close to zero before doing any ERP exercise,

why he focuses on eliminating rumination first before physical compulsions, the difference

between thinking normally and ruminating, noticing when you're ruminating and much, much

more.

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