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The OCD Stories

Dr Michael Greenberg: Malan’s model of OCD (Part 2) (#371)

The OCD Stories

Stuart

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4.8873 Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In episode 371 I chat with Dr Michael Greenberg. Michael is a clinical psychologist who specialises in Rumination-Focused ERP.

We discuss what is Malan’s model of OCD, the triangle of conflict and the triangle of the person, he shares why this model is not parent shaming, why nothing real is ideal and that’s ok, how Malan’s ideas can inform exposure and response prevention therapy (ERP), why OCD themes change from Michael’s view of Malan’s work, the concept of splitting, and much more. Hope it helps.

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0:00.0

You're listening to The O. C.D do this for interviewing inspired therapists,

0:15.2

psychologists and people who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD stories.

0:21.9

And welcome to episode 371 of the podcast. And in this one I got back on

0:26.8

Dr. Michael Greenberg. Michael is a clinical psychologist and if you listen to the podcast for a while

0:32.0

then you may be familiar with his work

0:33.6

but about five episodes ago in episode 366 I interviewed him about Malin's model of

0:39.6

OCD so I wanted to get him back on to go over some more questions I had, some questions that some of you guys had, and to clarify a few things.

0:50.0

So if you found that episode intriguing or interesting in some way, hopefully this episode

0:54.6

furthers that. But if you haven't heard it and you want to listen to that one first, it's episode

0:58.9

366 with Dr Michael Greenberg. So in this one, he briefly sums up what is Malin's model of OCD,

1:06.0

the triangle of conflict and the triangle of the person.

1:10.0

He shares why this model is not parent-, why nothing real is ideal and that's okay,

1:16.0

and how Malin's ideas can inform exposure response prevention therapy,

1:20.0

why OCD themes change from Michael's view of Malin's work, the concept of splitting and much more.

1:26.5

This topic is a bit out there compared to usual and popular ways of looking at OCD.

1:34.0

So go into it with an open mind.

1:37.0

If you like it, you like it.

1:38.0

Great.

1:39.0

See if it works for you.

1:40.0

See if there's any aspects you can bring into your therapy with your therapist or your way of working

1:44.2

with OCD. And if you don't like it or you hate it, that's okay too. I never ask you to fully take

1:51.0

something on board without thinking about it. I just put these things out there to

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