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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Dr. Mehmet Oz on Fixing American Healthcare + Fraud | Live from Davos

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

All-In Podcast, LLC

Business, Technology, Entrepreneurship

4.010.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) The Besties introduce Dr. Oz

(3:26) Trump's vision for healthcare in America

(13:26) AI & self-directed healthcare

(30:10) The future of GLP-1s and affordability

(35:06) The Medical Fraud Crisis

(44:02) California fraud and accountability

(56:57) Immigration and addiction

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Referenced in the show:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41746-025-01671-6

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, everybody, welcome back. It's all in at Davos. My bestie David Sachs is here.

0:04.9

We're having a great time. We're here. Can you guys catch this in the background? Oh, my God. It's amazing. It's stunning. This is the Davos experience. It looks real. I know. Well, it kind of looks like a green screen from here because this is so picturesque. It's literally like a postcard. It is a real deal. And we'll look over the ledge here.

0:22.0

And what you'll see is all of the virtue signaling ESG, DEI executives. And you'll just, it's emanating

0:29.8

from this entire area. And they put solar over every single building here. None of it's plugged in.

0:35.0

It's just for aesthetics. but we're really excited,

0:37.9

David and I, to do a bunch of interviews here. Wow. Today we've got a great one for you,

0:42.5

and we're going to talk about health, and we're going to talk about the healthcare system

0:46.1

with none other than Dr. Mehmed Oz. You're the administrator now for CMS. You've gone from

0:51.4

being America's doctor, dare I say, to being a civil servant like my friend

0:56.5

David Sachs. Why did you choose, really height of your power's career to go into public service

1:04.5

like this? So I'm in the change business. You guys are as well. And if you're in the change

1:08.9

business and the project you're pursuing

1:11.2

is not making a significant change, then you want to move onto something else that could make

1:16.1

the impact of desire. And especially in healthcare, we don't have the luxury of fooling around

1:20.7

for years of our lives, pursuing interests that don't result in meaningfully changing the quality

1:27.4

of life, but also the opportunity

1:29.0

that the American people have. And so I loved being a TV host, did it for 13 years. I love practicing

1:36.1

surgery, which I've done my whole life until recently. This is the best job I've ever had.

1:41.4

And it's the best job I've had because of the people that I get to work with,

1:45.2

but also because you truly do get to make the change that I desire. I think a lot of folks,

1:49.8

the reason they watch the own podcast is they want to change stuff too. And I encourage everybody

1:55.2

to, you know, take some big swings and you'll break things once in a while. But if you want to be

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