Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Metaxus.

Hey folks, welcome to the Eric Metaxus show.

As usual, I'm interviewing somebody that I think of as a friend,

but forget that for a minute. I want to give this person a proper introduction.

Marty McCarrie, Dr. Marty McCarrie, is a Johns Hopkins surgeon and professor of health policy and

management. He's a leading voice for physicians. He's been writing in the Wall Street Journal USA Today.

He's a member of the National Academy of Medicine, and that's just the beginning.

And here he is.

Marty McCarrie, welcome the program.

Great to be with you, Eric.

Congratulations on the paperback version of your book, The Price We Pay, What Broke American

Healthcare, and How to Fix It.

You are difficult to sum up because you are one of

the top surgeons in the world, no kidding, and yet you are very involved in health policy. You work

with the Obama administration, with the Trump administration. I mean, you're D.C. base. So you're in that world and you'll be able to

able to bring your expertise on this stuff. So I want to talk to you about, can you guess?

COVID. I say, I don't like people who make politically incorrect statements. So I said, if you're

going to give it a name, it should be called. This is just what the CDC recommends.

Refer to it as the Kung flu pandedemic. I believe that's it, right, Albin? Okay. Anyway,

because I don't like when people take cheap shot to China and stuff. It's just not right.

But the last 18 months have been lunacy for most Americans, not just because we're dealing with

transgender madness and Marxism, cultural Marxism, people burning buildings.

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