Dr. Marty McCarrey, you've heard him on the show before, he's a New York Times best-selling

author of the price we pay, his new book, Blind Spots, When Medicine Gets It Wrong and

what it means for our health.

Dr McCarrey, welcome back to the show.

It's great to have you.

Good to be back.

Thanks, Rich.

Yeah, no, listen, first of all, I gotta tell you off the record,

I'm home today, my home studio studio because my kids have lice. Any advice?

There is a good protocol for lice but it's a lot more common than people think.

Okay so I'm gonna I'm not gonna die or anything right you're gonna live okay that's great news thank you very much you

you've you've reassured me we went through a pandemic you were one of the most

outspoken people about common sense during the pandemic and thank god for you and

thank god for this new book.

What led you to write this book,

your latest book, Blind Spots?

Well, the pandemic was a little peak

into how our medical leadership works in modern medicine.

And I didn't write about COVID in the book,

hardly at all, because people are sick of it,

and it's become pretty tribal.

But if you look at the arrogance, the group think on so many other common

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