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10% Happier with Dan Harris

Dr. Mark Epstein

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.612.9K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2016

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Buddhist psychiatrist and author Dr. Mark Epstein has for years written about the overlap between Western psychotherapy and Eastern Buddhist philosophies. Epstein sat down with Dan Harris to talk about the impact meditation can have on the mind, both positive and negative, for those looking for an escape from suffering. He also went deep into the Buddhist concept of the "no-self," whether Enlightenment can be reached ... and what it might look or feel like. He has written numerous books on these topics, his most recent being, "The Trauma of Everyday Life." Epstein first discovered meditation in college and one of the "breakthroughs" he said that made the practice click for him happened while he was learning to juggle. "Once I got the three oranges in the air, my mind had to relax in order to keep it going and I understood, 'Oh yeah, this is what they're trying to teach me in mediation.'" Before he found meditation, Epstein said he was a very anxious person who worried all the time. Now after practicing meditation for more than 40 years, Epstein said he wouldn't know what he would be without it.

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0:00.0

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0:23.9

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0:29.8

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0:36.0

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0:39.7

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0:56.5

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1:02.6

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1:08.8

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1:11.4

From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

1:24.2

Disclaimer right off the top. Do not expect journalistic objectivity on this one. My guest

1:29.9

today and this is this is a horribly overused phrase, but I'm going to use it unapologetically

1:35.6

anyway. I think it's fair to say that my guest today changed my life. His name is Dr.

1:41.1

Mark Epstein. Just a little quick backstory before I let him talk. In 2009, my wife gave me

1:48.0

a book by a guy named Dr. Mark Epstein. I never heard of the guy and he's a psychiatrist

1:53.5

based here in New York sitting. He writes about the overlap between psychology and Buddhism.

1:58.4

I and I like to tell this story. I actually knew nothing about Buddhism at this point other

2:03.3

than the fact that when I was a 15 year old punk kid, I stole a Buddha statue from a local

2:07.6

gardening store and put it in my bedroom because I thought maybe it would help me with

2:10.8

the ladies. It didn't. That's another story. I started to read his book the night my wife

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