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From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

Dr. Judd Brewer has had a huge impact on my meditation practice in the way I think

about meditation for many years. He's an elite neuroscientist who looks into what the

practice of meditation does to your brain. He's also a psychiatrist with an expertise in

addiction. Interestingly, he's never had a classical addiction.

So that's been a sort of interesting thing to discuss with him given that I've probably

got more experience in that area than he does, but he definitely knows how to treat it.

And he has a new book which is called The Craving Mind which is really good at how they

recommend it. He talks about how we get into these addictive loops even if it's, you

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