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The OCD Stories

Dr Jon Hoffman: Rethinking Mental Rituals: A Philosophical Conversation (#529)

The OCD Stories

Stuart

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.8933 Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In episode 529 I chatted with Jonathan Hoffman. Jon is a licensed psychologist and Board Certified in Cognitive and Behavioral Psychology. He co-founded the NBI Ranch and the Neurobehavioral Institute (NBI), where he was Chief Clinical Officer, exiting these roles at the end of 2025 after many years of practice. 

We discuss an update on Jon, what are mental rituals/compulsions, the history of mental rituals/compulsions, are mental rituals/compulsions behaviours, we debate what is good science, how do we study mental rituals/compulsions, and much more. Hope it helps.

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0:00.0

You're listening to The OCD Stories podcast, hosted by me, Stuart Ralph.

0:05.5

The OCD Stories is a podcast dedicated to raising awareness and understanding around obsessive,

0:11.1

compulsive symptoms. I do this for interviewing inspired therapists, psychologists, and people

0:16.8

who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD Stories.

0:25.4

And welcome to episode 529 of the podcast.

0:32.1

And in this one, I welcomed back Dr. Jonathan Hoffman. John is a licensed psychologist and board certified in cognitive and behavioral psychology. He co-founded the MBA Ranch and the Neurobehavioral Institute,

0:39.6

where he was chief clinical officer exiting these roles at the end of 2025

0:44.1

after many years of practice.

0:46.2

So in this episode, I got an update on John.

0:49.2

This topic generally is a very philosophical one,

0:52.3

um,

0:53.5

quite scientific. So it's not, not so like the usual podcast so um go

0:58.6

into it with that thinking that john or i aren't stating anything here it's much more of a let's

1:04.7

discuss this debate this and try and understand things so we discuss what are mental rituals or

1:10.6

mental compulsions but from here on out i just what are mental rituals or mental compulsions, but from here on

1:13.0

out, I just call them mental rituals. The history of mental rituals are mental rituals behaviors.

1:18.9

We debate what is good science, how do we study mental rituals and much more. So if you're looking

1:24.9

for more of a philosophical, uh, heady talk, I think you

1:28.4

will enjoy this one. If you're looking for a more practical one, this episode may not be for you.

1:33.3

And thanks to our podcast partners, no CD. If OCD is interfering with your life, no CD can help.

1:40.3

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1:45.3

proven therapy for OCD.

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