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Dr. Jewel Parker Rhodes. Settle in because this is kind of a long

while because she's such a rock star. Dr. Jewel Parker Rhodes is an award-winning and best-selling

author of many books, including her most recent Black Brother, Black Brother. Her books include

Ninth Ward, which was the winner of the Coretta Scott King Honor, Sugar, winner of the

Jane Adams Children's Book Award, and Ghost Boys. Both the hardback and paperback

editions of Ghost Boys are New York Times bestsellers. Ghost Boys is also an indie bound bestseller,

number one kids indie next pick, and ALA 2019 Children's Notable List Pick, among others. And I have to

also say, it's a Walter Award, E.B. White, Read Aloud Award, and Children's Choice Book Award.

Dr. Rhodes has also written many award-winning novels for adults, like the American Book Award-winning Douglas' Women, plus two writing guides, and a memoir called Porch Stories, a grandmother's guide to happiness.

Her adult literary awards include the American Book Award, the National Endowment of the Arts Award and Fiction, the Black Caucus of the American Library Award for Literary Excellence,

and the Penn Oakland-Josephine Miles Award for Outstanding Writing.

When she's not writing, Dr. Rhodes visits schools to talk about her books and teaches writing

at Arizona State University, where she is the founding artistic director and chair of the Virginia

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