Dr. James Lacatski - This Is Ufo Disclosure, As Far As It Can Go

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Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp

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🗓️ 8 April 2026

⏱️ 104 minutes

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A pair of brilliant intelligence analysts working for the DIA circa 2006-2007 came up with an idea to design the largest, most audacious, and most secretive UFO program ever funded by the US government. It was dubbed AAWSAP, and the public never knew it existed until 7 years after it ended. In its 27-month existence, it created the world's largest UFO data warehouse, a stack of more than 100 thick, highly detailed reports filled with hard data about UFO cases and incidents, as well as rigorous, original investigations into connections between UFO incidents and paranormal phenomena. The two instigators of AAWSAP came to believe that paranormal events were not a subset of UFO cases, but rather, the opposite. UFOs were - and are - a small slice under a larger paranormal umbrella, according to nuclear engineer, rocket scientist, and DIA analyst Dr. James Lacatski, who was appointed director of AAWSAP and who continued to rely on his fellow innovator, Jay Stratton, who later became head of the UAP Task Force. In this sometimes-tense conversation, Dr. Lacatski reveals that, as far as he knows, no one in government knows the full story about UFOs or where they originate, or what intelligence is behind them. Lacatski has just released "Future Visions," his fourth book culled from the unreleased files of AAWSAP. He doubts that the actual files will ever be released, and that his books constitute the closest thing to full disclosure the public might ever get. Lacatski says there is no way another AAWSAP will ever be approved, but hints that a smaller, more focused effort related to the proposed Kona Blue program did carry on after AAWSAP ended. Like the previous books, Future Visions is jammed with startling incidents, hard data from UAP encounters, and inexplicable, bone-chilling encounters with bizarre phenomena at Skinwalker Ranch and other similar locations. "The government doesn't know much more [than the general public]," Dr. Lacatski declares. "There are people that think they know more, but they don't. That this is wide open." *Check out Dr. Lacatski’s new book, Inside the U.S. Government Covert UFO Program: Future Visions ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://a.co/d/0dvJApZ3 ••• 🤖 MERCH : https://Weaponized-Shop.Fourthwall.com 👽 MAIN : https://YouTube.com/@JeremyCorbell 🛸 CLIPS : https://YouTube.com/@WEAPONIZEDclips 🕵️ MORE : https://WeaponizedPodcast.com GOT A TIP? Reach out to us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeaponizedPodcast@Proton.me⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• Watch Corbell's six-part UFO docuseries titled UFO REVOLUTION on TUBI here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution/season-2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch Knapp’s six-part UFO docuseries titled INVESTIGATION ALIEN on NETFLIX here : ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://netflix.com/title/81674441⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• You can now watch all of Corbell's movies for free on YouTube here : BOB LAZAR : AREA 51 & FLYING SAUCERS ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtu.be/sZaE5rIavVA⁠⁠⁠⁠ HUNT FOR THE SKINWALKER ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtu.be/TczkJ6UAQ8A⁠⁠⁠⁠ PATIENT SEVENTEEN ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtu.be/gDVX0kRqXxE⁠⁠⁠⁠ ••• For breaking news, follow Corbell & Knapp on all social media. Extras and bonuses from the episode can be found at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WeaponizedPodcast.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Dr. James Lakatsky was the head of the DNI's program to study UFOs,
0:05.0	the largest acknowledged government UFO program ever.
0:09.0	The DIA itself is very aware now because of your work that there are
0:14.0	close contact to non-humans, is that correct?
0:19.0	Well, from this study we are, from this study we are. This is weaponized.
0:33.9	This is weaponized. I'm George Knapp here in Las Vegas, joined by my friend and colleague Jeremy Corbell. Jeremy, how's it going?
0:40.8	Pretty good, man. How you doing?
0:42.3	Good. You've been on the road a little bit, huh?
0:44.6	Yeah, I tried to get off the road, but we got some big things coming up this year.
0:50.0	We do, including this particular episode. So, you know, as we know all too well, the UFO public
0:57.5	constantly demands full disclosure. We want to know everything. We want to know it now.
1:03.0	What does the government know about UFOs? We won't settle for anything less. Where's the bodies?
1:07.7	Where's the craft? And there are some members of Congress that say they want the same thing. And, you know, expectations are that sort of disclosure is nigh.
1:16.6	President Trump has said he's going to release the files. My personal expectations are pretty
1:21.5	low, as usual. You're the optimist of the group. You know, the biggest stash of unreleased
1:27.1	files, as far as we know, is somewhere in the bowels of the group. You know, the biggest stash of unreleased files, as far as we know,
1:29.2	is somewhere in the bowels of the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, information compiled
1:34.3	from a program known as Ossap under DIA. The man who created and designed and directed that
1:41.2	program, the largest known UFO investigation ever funded by the U.S.
1:45.1	government is James Likatsky. And it's now been eight years since I first met him and got a
1:50.1	download from him about OSAP. It's now 16 years since that effort ended. And other than some
1:56.1	preliminary reports, the dirds had been made public by me and some other people. Not one page of the tens of
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