Dr. J: Giving Michael Jordan the GOAT Blueprint & Saving the NBA
All The Smoke
The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts
4.7 • 7.6K Ratings
🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Basketball history has had only a handful of true faces of the league and we were lucky to sit down with one of them during NBA All-Star Weekend: Julius “Dr. J” Erving. Matt and Stak talk with Dr. J about everything from his legendary runs at Rucker Park to the high-flying, flashy style of the ABA, plus his heated rivalry with Larry Bird and the Boston Celtics. Along the way, we share plenty of laughs, including the inspiration behind Doc’s iconic afro and a hilarious story about his college car at UMass. From influencing generations of players to becoming Michael Jordan’s favorite player and blueprint on and off the court, Dr. J’s impact is undeniable. Step back in time with us as we sit down with true basketball royalty.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:21.3 | Guaranteed Human. That man, right there, it's fly, ain't he? Ooh. Doc, you remember what kind of watched that is you got on on that pick? Right there? Yeah. That's a Rolex, man. That's a Roleck. Yeah. That should be a Rolex. He was wearing them chips before. It was cool, huh? I was in my third year. |
| 0:22.8 | What was the shade? |
| 0:23.5 | Do you remember the shades? |
| 0:25.3 | Cardiades. |
| 0:25.9 | Cardiade? |
| 0:27.1 | Cardiade. |
| 0:29.1 | I got the shades upstairs. |
| 0:30.6 | I still got them. |
| 0:31.5 | Still got them. |
| 0:32.1 | That's right. |
| 0:32.8 | Yeah. Welcome back All the Smoke, L.A. All-Star 2020. Bro, I really like your outfit today, bro. Thanks. I'm a fan of that. I like it. I appreciate you. We got some sponsors in the building today that made this happen. This episode is presented you by Moneyline. We haven't heard that in a while. Man, they're back, huh? Welcome back, Moneyline. Welcome back to the family. Download the app at moneyline.com to learn more. Moneyline. Make Money easy. And obviously shout out our favorite, one of our favorite sponsors. Draft Kings in the building. Made it out here. Good to see everybody. Got to the family. Jack, we've been working on this one for a minute, or at least I have. I've been on him constantly. Every time I see him, |
| 1:30.9 | we'll talk and then... Good to see everybody. Talk to the family. Jack, we've been working on this one for a minute, or at least I have. |
| 1:28.3 | I've been on him constantly. Every time I see him, we'll talk. And then come on, Doc, one day you got to just come sit down with us. And he's finally here, man, four-time MVP, two-time ABA champ, one-time NBA champ. You know, we grew up idolizing MJ. MJ grew up idolizing this man. |
| 1:44.8 | Welcome to the show, Dr. Jay. |
| 1:46.7 | Thank you. |
| 1:47.4 | Good enough. You know, we grew up idolizing MJ. MJ grew up idolizing this man. Welcome to the show, Dr. Jay. Thank you. Thank you. Happy to be here, man. Good to be here, good to see you. I've been checking you guys out over the years. I appreciate that. You're all doing great. Thank you very much. Great job. Great things. It's wearing a lot of people. |
| 2:01.4 | New documentary out right now. Soul Power. The legend of the ABA is out now on Prime. Actually, Prime's in the building too. Shout out Prime. Yeah. We're going to talk ABA, MBA, MBA, and just life. I like that. Let's get to it. I like that. Ralph Samson was passionate about how you should be the logo. |
| 2:20.3 | Take a look at this clip. |
| 2:21.3 | And you guys probably agree. |
| 2:23.3 | The most iconic, they always say, who's the goat? |
| 2:26.3 | I don't think the goat is somebody that, somebody to play it, but they transitioned the game |
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