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My name's Katie Lecky and I'm an assistant commissioner for on demand music on BBC Sounds.

The BBC has an incredible musical heritage and culture and as a music lover, I love being part of that.

With music on sounds, we offer collections and mixes for everything, from workouts to

helping you nod off, boogie in your kitchen, or even just a moment of calm. And they're all

put together by people who know their stuff. So if you want some expertly curated music in your life,

check out BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Krista Young.. Thank you for downloading this podcast of Desert Island Discs from BBC Radio 4.

For rights reasons, the music choices are shorter than in the radio broadcast.

For more information about the programme, please visit BBC.co.ukaucom.uk slash radio four. My castaway this week is the forensic psychotherapist Gwen Adzad.

She is one of the leaders in a very specialized field,

trying to understand the behavior of the most vilified people in society

and attempting to find ways of treating it.

For more than a decade, her office has been behind the towering walls of Broadmoor Hospital.

The Victorian-built institution in Berkshire is home to more than 200 men,

all convicted or accused of the most dangerous violent behaviour.

She also works with young offenders, supports crime victims, writes academic papers, and is currently working on a book on the nature of evil.

Compared to that, her life outside work seems, well, almost impossibly normal.

Bringing up her children, singing in a choir, and gardening fill her spare time.

Of her work, she says, other people's minds are so fascinating, I can't think of anything

more interesting, and I can't understand why everyone isn't a psychiatrist. Fascinating, but I

imagine at times also pretty terrifying. There must be moments when you contemplate what the people

you talk to have done, and you are a little scared at least?

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