Dr Fugen Neziroglu: When a higher level of care may be needed, and overvalued ideation (#536)
The OCD Stories
Stuart
4.8 • 933 Ratings
🗓️ 3 May 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
In episode 536 I chat with Dr. Fugen Neziroglu. Fugen is a board-certified cognitive and behavior psychologist and the Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Bio Behavioral Institute in Great Neck, NY. Fugen has published more than 150 papers in scientific journals and authored or co-authored 15 books.
We discuss her rich background in the field of OCD, being mentored by the late Dr Edna Foa, the dosage of therapy, when to level up care, some of the earliest signs once a week therapy isn't working for someone, intensive outpatient programs (IOP), residential treatment, inpatient treatment, medical treatments, what an IOP should look like, adapting the IOP to the clients timeframe. We then discuss overvalued ideation (OVI), low insight, the need to deal with OVI to improve treatment effectiveness, motivational interviewing, shame, and much more. Hope it helps.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to The OCD Stories podcast, hosted by me, Stuart Ralph. |
| 0:05.5 | The OCD Stories is a podcast dedicated to raising awareness and understanding around obsessive, |
| 0:11.1 | compulsive symptoms. I do this for interviewing inspired therapists, psychologists, and people |
| 0:16.8 | who have experienced OCD. Welcome to the OCD Stories. |
| 0:25.2 | And welcome to episode 536 of the podcast. |
| 0:31.6 | And in this one, I chat with Dr. Fugan Nezorolu. Fugan is a board certified cognitive and behavioral psychologist and the co-founder and executive director of the Biobehavioral Institute |
| 0:37.2 | in Great Neck, New York. |
| 0:38.9 | Fugan has published more than 150 papers in scientific journals and authored or co-authored 15 books. |
| 0:45.9 | So it's great to finally get Fugan on. |
| 0:47.9 | To be honest, she should have been on the show a long, long time ago. |
| 0:50.3 | She has done so much for the OCD community. |
| 0:54.1 | So in particular, we talk about her rich |
| 0:56.9 | background in the field of OCD, being mentored by the late Dr. Edna Fowah, the dosage of therapy, |
| 1:03.8 | when to level up care, some earliest signs once a week therapy isn't working for someone, |
| 1:09.4 | intensive outpatient programs, |
| 1:11.6 | residential treatment, inpatient treatment, medical treatments, what an IOP, which is intensive |
| 1:17.9 | outpatient program should look like adapting the IOP to the client's timeframe. |
| 1:23.9 | We then discuss overvalued ideation, low insight, the need to deal with overvalued ideation |
| 1:30.7 | to improve treatment effectiveness, motivational interviewing, shame and much more. |
| 1:37.4 | And thanks to our podcast partners, no CD. |
| 1:40.5 | If OCD is interfering with your life, no CD can help. |
| 1:44.4 | Their licensed therapists specialize in exposure and response prevention therapy, |
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