Well, good morning everyone. We're live now on the Conversations That Matter Podcast, and it is a beautiful day where I am. I hope that you're enjoying the last of summer. I mean, it's kind of transitioning here in New York from summer to fall.

It just starting but we still got 90 degrees on some of the days this week. So anyway, I'm

looking forward to getting out and doing some summer things. We have an important topic though to talk about today and as many of you know if you listen to this podcast for long enough I do cover a lot of the social justice incursions that are made in evangelicalism.

And we've covered various denominations, traditions, organizations that have been infiltrated, and

I try to trace down how they've been infiltrated. What were the tactics that were used?

What should our response be as Christians who are Orthodox and our theology who are conservative

politically because we're conservative

theologically.

And I have the privilege today.

I don't know why I haven't had him on sooner,

but we have Dr Everett Piper with us.

Dr Everett Piper is a contributor to the Washington Times. He's written a few books.

Not a daycare is his most popular one. You can go to Dr Everett Piper.com. If you want to purchase those books or find out more about him.

And we're going to talk a little bit about the Wesleyan tradition because that's

where Dr. Piper comes from and he's been, we'll say at the upper echlons of an institution in that

tradition.

So thank you Dr Piper, thank you for joining me.

Well I'm honored to be on your show, thanks for asking me. I think many of the people who are watching my podcast or listening have probably seen or at least know about enemies within the church and you were featured in that documentary.

And some of the things you said, I just was not familiar with.

I think I come from more of a reformed fundamentalist-ish background

and outside the Wesleyan tradition, though I actually do have some cousins who are Methodist

ministers, but it just, we didn't pay attention as much to what was happening.

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