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Hi, this is Deborah Messing.

And I am and Donna Dayani.

When we started this podcast,

our goal was to highlight 20 dissenters each season.

And then we were presented with the ones in a lifetime opportunity to interview someone

whose story has profoundly affected both of us.

So this episode is one that we feel deserves your utmost respect and

attention and we are going to break from our usual format. Today we speak with

Dr Edith Eva Eager, a 93-year-old survivor of the Holocaust, who has used her painful experiences as a gift to us all.

Her groundbreaking and innovative books and teachings in psychology have taught us how to heal and forgive. Oprah said she too was forever changed by meeting Dr. Eager.

Anti-Semitism is at an alarming high the United States and around the world.

Deborah and I have both been victims of it.

I had to flee my home country because of it.

It is real, it is here, and Dr. Eager is living proof of the unspeakable horror it can lead to when left unchecked.

We know this is going to be a really difficult episode to listen to, but that is what makes it

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